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tim kaine has that. in retrospect, you look at donald trump, mike pence offers donald trump the experience factor, the ability to connect with the republican base. so while these are two not dynamic picks, i think they are important thicks in the fact that they both offer the two running mates something that they don't have. >> i just want to show the viewers on the upper left part of your screen, that's miami beach, the fountainbleau hotel. the motorcade, i don't think it has left yet but maybe it will be leaving momentarily, make the drive over to miami, to florida international university where she will introduce tim kaine as her vice presidential running mate. back in july, tim kaine was with hillary clinton and she seemed to be auditioning for this vice presidential spot and he said this. listen to this. >> what will be remembered about the failed candidacy of donald trump is you're fired. he's a you're fired guy, outsourcing jobs, stiffing contractors being against minimum wage, being against equal
tim kaine has that. in retrospect, you look at donald trump, mike pence offers donald trump the experience factor, the ability to connect with the republican base. so while these are two not dynamic picks, i think they are important thicks in the fact that they both offer the two running mates something that they don't have. >> i just want to show the viewers on the upper left part of your screen, that's miami beach, the fountainbleau hotel. the motorcade, i don't think it has left yet...
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as tim kaine took the stage they spun their version of who tim kaine is. donald trump trying to sake that governor pence is a job creator. tim kaine is a job killer. they point out unemployment statistics saying they grew while tim kaine was governor of virginia and went down while governor pence has been in indiana. that's a little bit of a selective choosing of stats for the trump campaign. you could make the argument that president obama helped lift the economy as a whole in this chun, and that's why employment went up during governor pence's term in indiana. and that kaine was under president bush and unemployment was skyrocketing at that time. that's what you could say if you were the democratic party going back at the donald trump campaign. but so far i want to just mention how strikingly different these two campaigns are. in terms of the way their vps were rolled out. hillary clinton spoke for about 20 minutes elevating tim kaine. talking about his virtues. why she chose him. and tim kaine spoke for 40 minutes giving his vision of leadership to this
as tim kaine took the stage they spun their version of who tim kaine is. donald trump trying to sake that governor pence is a job creator. tim kaine is a job killer. they point out unemployment statistics saying they grew while tim kaine was governor of virginia and went down while governor pence has been in indiana. that's a little bit of a selective choosing of stats for the trump campaign. you could make the argument that president obama helped lift the economy as a whole in this chun, and...
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they're scared by tim kaine. the fact he does represent the old line dnc and the fact he's terrible on trade. on trade, he is in the same place where hillary clinton is. donald trump is the one that's against the tpp. he's for negotiating nafta. my inbox is full of bernie sanders supporters saying this pick did nothing for them. >> look, i have to jump in here because what i don't hear from boris' comments or anybody else's comments, is that never in my 20 years of politics and policy have i heard a nominee of the party make such a speech that was so laced would fear mongering. it was devoid of hopefulness. donald trump does not -- did not do anything to grow his party's platform. the platform the republicans would put forward have been the most anti-women, anti-lgbt, anti-immigrant. i have never seen anything like that. >> can i respond to that? >> whatever difference is, whatever differences that bernie sanders and hillary clinton have had -- >> boris -- >> we will find a way to -- >> i'd like an opportunity to
they're scared by tim kaine. the fact he does represent the old line dnc and the fact he's terrible on trade. on trade, he is in the same place where hillary clinton is. donald trump is the one that's against the tpp. he's for negotiating nafta. my inbox is full of bernie sanders supporters saying this pick did nothing for them. >> look, i have to jump in here because what i don't hear from boris' comments or anybody else's comments, is that never in my 20 years of politics and policy...
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the question now is what's the case for tim kaine? what's the case against tim kaine? and what this means for how hillary clinton is going to run this national campaign. joining us is msnbc political correspondent, steve kornacki. >> happy to be here. >> big day. >> it is. >> you aren't surprised by either the timing or the pick? >> no. the timing, a little bit surprising. i think we all expected it earlier in the day. when it got delayed we assumed it was the events over seas. in terms of me, the pick was the least suspenseful ones. i was looking for the curveball, the head fake, didn't see it. when you look back a lot of times what you see in these picks are candidates trying to address what they see as clear strategic shortcomings in the general election or candidates who feel like they need to change the campaign narrative. the classic example of that is 2008. john mccain felt running against barack obama he needed something dramatic, exciting, totally unpredictable. that's how he came up with sarah palin. he got more than he bargained for. that's how he came up wi
the question now is what's the case for tim kaine? what's the case against tim kaine? and what this means for how hillary clinton is going to run this national campaign. joining us is msnbc political correspondent, steve kornacki. >> happy to be here. >> big day. >> it is. >> you aren't surprised by either the timing or the pick? >> no. the timing, a little bit surprising. i think we all expected it earlier in the day. when it got delayed we assumed it was the...
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she is a political animal and so is tim kaine. they're comfortable with each other and really, he's not bringing anything to the ticket for her except for stability. so what clinton is doing, she's trying to draw a contrast between donald trump who goes off the rails, is rogue and can't trust him with the nuclear button and all those things and look at me, i'm the steady hand. look at our team. we're the ones you can trust, and i think that picking someone like tim kaine who rather vanilla compared to some of the others brings that to her. i think that's a risk because i don't know if the independents will look to that ticket and say this is who we want because it's an outsider year. people are upset with the establishment. >> i assume given the reliance in data of the clinton campaign and the data that they have access to, that they have looked at this in every different way about how tim kaine benefits them and must have made a calculation that he does benefit them. >> even not having access to the data that the clinton campaign
she is a political animal and so is tim kaine. they're comfortable with each other and really, he's not bringing anything to the ticket for her except for stability. so what clinton is doing, she's trying to draw a contrast between donald trump who goes off the rails, is rogue and can't trust him with the nuclear button and all those things and look at me, i'm the steady hand. look at our team. we're the ones you can trust, and i think that picking someone like tim kaine who rather vanilla...
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tim kaine is catholic. there been a number of vice presidential candidates that were catholic, including geraldine for our, paul ryan, joe biden. we also had a jewish running mate, joe lieberman in 2000. a similarnd is pattern compared to our results regarding home state candidacies and manages. in home states and within these demographic groups voters generally like these candidates more. they have more favorable opinions of them. women had more favorable opinions of geraldine ferraro. catholics had a more favorable view of joe biden for example. but that did not necessarily translate into votes. they were not so popular as to sway vote choice in the november election. our take away that we offered in this article is essentially due to the presidential candidates. demographic appeal among presidential candidate and home state appeal among presidential candidate, is a very different scenario. in home states presidential candidates tend to get three-seven points to any other political party and the year we a
tim kaine is catholic. there been a number of vice presidential candidates that were catholic, including geraldine for our, paul ryan, joe biden. we also had a jewish running mate, joe lieberman in 2000. a similarnd is pattern compared to our results regarding home state candidacies and manages. in home states and within these demographic groups voters generally like these candidates more. they have more favorable opinions of them. women had more favorable opinions of geraldine ferraro....
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not the case with tim kaine. secretary clinton, a lot of people in her circle felt really -- had a strong showing on that day that she appeared for tim kaine. that was part of that process as well. to your point, chris, that i heard you make a short while ago, he's someone who is a straight talker and i think can give her the advice that she needs. that's the perspective of the campaign at least, chris. >> who's nodding? steve mcmahon, your nodding was picked up by our senior producer. tell me, what do you agree about that? your thoughts, steve. >> this is a comfort choice for her and a good political choice. with tim kaine it becomes blue and it's important to the clinton campaign to take another state off the map. >> yes. and then you can start working on north carolina. >> yeah. right. as donald trump starts this race, he probably only starts with 170 electoral college votes and taking it off the table makes it difficult for him and narrows the playing field for him. >> is it still a matter of picking up your
not the case with tim kaine. secretary clinton, a lot of people in her circle felt really -- had a strong showing on that day that she appeared for tim kaine. that was part of that process as well. to your point, chris, that i heard you make a short while ago, he's someone who is a straight talker and i think can give her the advice that she needs. that's the perspective of the campaign at least, chris. >> who's nodding? steve mcmahon, your nodding was picked up by our senior producer....
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tim kaine was also the mayor of richmond. he has supported all kinds of civil rights movements coming out of harvard law school. he took time off to be a civil rights lawyer for the first couple of years. in some big celebrated cases. in between college and law school, he went to honduras and ran a spanish language high school as a christian missionary. he pushed back against left democratic criticism. it's going to be that he's devoted his life to progressive issues, even though he has been more of a centrist democrat in terms of his votes in the senate. there's going to be a lot of back-and-forth on this, and what is really interesting that we still have not heard as of the moment i walked up on this platform, from either elizabeth warren or bernie sanders. it could be because we're going to hear sanders' position on "meet the press" tomorrow, which would be a great coup for me"me the press" and chuck todd. we're still waiting to hear from bernie sanders as to whether he can support tim kaine, even though kaine has not been
tim kaine was also the mayor of richmond. he has supported all kinds of civil rights movements coming out of harvard law school. he took time off to be a civil rights lawyer for the first couple of years. in some big celebrated cases. in between college and law school, he went to honduras and ran a spanish language high school as a christian missionary. he pushed back against left democratic criticism. it's going to be that he's devoted his life to progressive issues, even though he has been...
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kaine. >> tim kaine was a slap in the face to bernie sanders. >> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine
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of course, he had been quietly supportive of tim kaine. tim kaine was the first governor back in 2007 to endorse barack obama. they're about the same age, a little bit younger, the president is, but she called the president tonight at 7:48, i am told, to make that announcement to him. so other phone calls and things are going on now, new congratulations are coming out to tim kaine. important to point out, the democratic convention will have discord, as well. he does not fit the liberal strain inside the democratic party, but you wonder why elizabeth warren and others were aren't picked, his is a safe senate seat. his seat will be appointed by a democrat ic governors and all of the others are republican governor. >> and perhaps of the leaked e-mails from inside the dnc showing that they were sending negative e-mails about bernie sanders and trying to raise questions about his religion hoping that he would be asked about that. a lot more to talk about about this choice. we'll take a short break and our coverage continues in just a moment. i
of course, he had been quietly supportive of tim kaine. tim kaine was the first governor back in 2007 to endorse barack obama. they're about the same age, a little bit younger, the president is, but she called the president tonight at 7:48, i am told, to make that announcement to him. so other phone calls and things are going on now, new congratulations are coming out to tim kaine. important to point out, the democratic convention will have discord, as well. he does not fit the liberal strain...
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>> i am. >> are you happy with tim kaine? >> i am. i like tim kaine a lot. i want to take a little issue with what ben jealous said when he described him as not being courageous. this is where the nra is based, who has an f rating from the nra, signed an executive order taking guns out of the hands of mentally ill people after the virginia tech -- he's closed a bunch of loopholes. he's been a great vote on gun control, which obviously has become a bigger priority for secretary clinton in this campaign. i think there's a lot to like. i very happy when the gentleman from virginia, that great reporter, brought up his work on civil rights. he won a tremendous settlement from nationwide, $17.5 million around redlining. >> the racist housing process. >> yeah. >> he goes to an african-american church, he sends his kids to a majority black school in richmond. he's got a lot to offer. i'm concerned about the tpp vote. he may not be as progressive as i am. i have those concerns but i think as progressives, we need more of a big tent approach and stop trying to read pe
>> i am. >> are you happy with tim kaine? >> i am. i like tim kaine a lot. i want to take a little issue with what ben jealous said when he described him as not being courageous. this is where the nra is based, who has an f rating from the nra, signed an executive order taking guns out of the hands of mentally ill people after the virginia tech -- he's closed a bunch of loopholes. he's been a great vote on gun control, which obviously has become a bigger priority for secretary...
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she wanted to pick tim kaine from the very beginning. she was listening to all the other arguments to go for somebody more exciting to the left, to go someone that would excite latinos or african-americans, but in the end it's her asserting this is what i want to do. this does merge obama world and clinton world because it's terry mcauliffe getting his guy but also barack obama having sort of a seat in the administration should they win, because kaine is definitely an obama guy. he was with obama over hillary in 2008, so i think that's important. and when you have a chaos candidate on the other side, it isn't insane to say we'll go with sunny and nice. somebody who's optimistic and can really help in virginia, can probably do some good in places like colorado, where you have suburban white voters who may be tempted to go with trump, but when you talk about suburban white women, you want somebody safe, you want somebody comfortable. he can also campaign for her in those suburban parts of where i am, in philadelphia. you can send him to th
she wanted to pick tim kaine from the very beginning. she was listening to all the other arguments to go for somebody more exciting to the left, to go someone that would excite latinos or african-americans, but in the end it's her asserting this is what i want to do. this does merge obama world and clinton world because it's terry mcauliffe getting his guy but also barack obama having sort of a seat in the administration should they win, because kaine is definitely an obama guy. he was with...
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and the country getting to know tim kaine. who he is and three things you might not know that we haven't covered all day. using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit... veggies... and herbs needed to create a pop-up pick-your-own juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows... we have some of the freshest juice in town. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink see what the power of points can do for your business. you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ♪ ♪ ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. ♪ >>> this week's convention where we always
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more importantly tim kaine stood up to the nra. when you put it in the entire context, he stood up to the nra in a southern state. that type of courage is remarkable. not only that, i was speaking with mayor nutter off air, talking about the fact that he actually had to lead through one of these conversations and it's a glaring contrast to a mike pence on donald trump. one of the others was not just an organizational difference but a chemistry difference. mike pence and donald trump, i don't know if they necessarily care or like each other, you could see there was a natural admiration between tim kaine and hillary clinton. last week in donald trump's speech when he batterized people of color and muslims, what you saw today was something totally different, someone who could speak a different language but not just patronize but talk about immigration reform. my phone has been blowing up. i got a call from a good friend of mine after the speech, we're both democrats. the bar was set low for tim raen. that was my first time actually he
more importantly tim kaine stood up to the nra. when you put it in the entire context, he stood up to the nra in a southern state. that type of courage is remarkable. not only that, i was speaking with mayor nutter off air, talking about the fact that he actually had to lead through one of these conversations and it's a glaring contrast to a mike pence on donald trump. one of the others was not just an organizational difference but a chemistry difference. mike pence and donald trump, i don't...
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they're tugging tim kaine corrupt kaine. and trump's trying to make an issue out of about $160,000 in gifts kaine received when he was lieutenant governor and governor of virginia. he accepted things like clothes, travel, even a vacation. but those gifts were legal in virginia, as long as any gift over $50 was publicly disclosed. here's what trump tweeted about it last night. he said is it the same tim kaine that took hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts while governor of virginia? and didn't get indicted while bob m did? it seems trump's referring to former virginia governor bob mcdonald who was convicted of federal corruption charges after being accused of accepting gifts from a businessman in exchange for promoting that person's company. the supreme court overturned mcdonald's convention last month. trump is trying to tie kaine to mcdonald there are big differences. kaine disclosed his gifts. mcdonald didn't make all of his gifts public. number two, kaine's been accused of -- kaine's never been accused of promising a
they're tugging tim kaine corrupt kaine. and trump's trying to make an issue out of about $160,000 in gifts kaine received when he was lieutenant governor and governor of virginia. he accepted things like clothes, travel, even a vacation. but those gifts were legal in virginia, as long as any gift over $50 was publicly disclosed. here's what trump tweeted about it last night. he said is it the same tim kaine that took hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts while governor of virginia? and...
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tim kaine is a nice guy, sunny, optimistic. he'll say the purge is not happening just because the trump campaign tells you it is. everything is fine. i think, on the other hand, this pick does remind me of clinton politics at sort of the level that people are uncomfortable with clinton politics have a problem with. meaning they went with their guy's guy. what i've heard about the push, you just had him on, terry mcauliffe is the person who has been probably the biggest booster of tim kaine. this gives him incredible power. he could pick himself for that senate seat. it shows that they are under the strong influence of the people who have been influencing the clintons for decades and that is one of the biggest drags on hillary clinton. it's one of the biggest knots on her. it's one of the reasons she's having a hard time reintroducing herself. and the second thing is that the pick reminded me more than anything of merrick garland, that it's tone deaf to the part of the party that is yearning for change. and hillary clinton still
tim kaine is a nice guy, sunny, optimistic. he'll say the purge is not happening just because the trump campaign tells you it is. everything is fine. i think, on the other hand, this pick does remind me of clinton politics at sort of the level that people are uncomfortable with clinton politics have a problem with. meaning they went with their guy's guy. what i've heard about the push, you just had him on, terry mcauliffe is the person who has been probably the biggest booster of tim kaine....
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that's the tim kaine i know. that's tim kaine i know. >> what would you like to see from him tonight, anything different? >> i just want him t make america know who he is like we know who he is. >> is he going to play the harmonica? >> i hope he does. he is absolutely a perfectionist and expert at it. >> i was telling my friend, li s wouldn't it be great the crowd would go wild. >> when tim kaine came to check out the podium as they always do, first thing he did make sure he knows where the virginia delegation is and they are front and center. >> they're not too hard to spot at this convention. chris jansing with the virginia delegation. let's bring back our panel. joining us, a special guest someone who knows about picking vice presidents. michael dukakis. the 1988 convention was yours. you're credited in that campaign, it was one of the bigger mismatches we've seen between vice presidential candidates, lloyd benson, dan quayle. the pick of lloyd benson, take us through it through a candidate's perspective. >> i
that's the tim kaine i know. that's tim kaine i know. >> what would you like to see from him tonight, anything different? >> i just want him t make america know who he is like we know who he is. >> is he going to play the harmonica? >> i hope he does. he is absolutely a perfectionist and expert at it. >> i was telling my friend, li s wouldn't it be great the crowd would go wild. >> when tim kaine came to check out the podium as they always do, first thing he...
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trying to count the ways i hate tim kaine. donald trump is saying he's too much of an insider, too much of the establishment. is he too establishment for the progressive wing of the party? >> i shure don't think so. this is a guy who took a year off and served as a missionary, he made sure he learned span is fluently. he has shown independence in a number of things he's taken on in the senate. i don't buy that at all. >> you were rumored to be on the short list. are you disappointed? >> i am so happy to hear that someone like tim kaine has been chosen a chosen. how could i be disappointed? >> after coming off of a week of the republican convention and now we're talking about the democratic ticket, how will he help hillary clinton defeat the trump/pence ticket? >> well, i think, first of all, he is a good messenger. he's going to be able to show that difference. as you saw in their appearance last week in virginia, he's going to be very good at showing the difference between the two candidates and hillary's experience and visio
trying to count the ways i hate tim kaine. donald trump is saying he's too much of an insider, too much of the establishment. is he too establishment for the progressive wing of the party? >> i shure don't think so. this is a guy who took a year off and served as a missionary, he made sure he learned span is fluently. he has shown independence in a number of things he's taken on in the senate. i don't buy that at all. >> you were rumored to be on the short list. are you...
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hillary clinton has chosen tim kaine of virginia as her running mate, bret, back to you. >> tim kaine now the vp pick is a generic democrat, centrist. as much as mike pence is sort of a generic republican. someone who is a safe pick on both sides. >> well, and he is also a virginia democrat. and virginia is a very important swing state. is he a proven vote getter in northern virginia. very democrat. but he has also been able to compete in some of the southern parts of the state which are much more conservative. he hab the chairman of the democratic national committee and chairman on a number of other committees. is he a long-time democratic operative and politician and he has got lots of friends. is he pretty well liked in the democratic party and that's been a lot of hillary clinton's problems. can he act as a reassurance. perhaps bring a little bit of that southern virginia charm. authentic virginian and sometimes hillary clinton gets sort of criticized for turning on the southern accent and going from chicago to new york and sometimes pretend she is from the old south. so, there ar
hillary clinton has chosen tim kaine of virginia as her running mate, bret, back to you. >> tim kaine now the vp pick is a generic democrat, centrist. as much as mike pence is sort of a generic republican. someone who is a safe pick on both sides. >> well, and he is also a virginia democrat. and virginia is a very important swing state. is he a proven vote getter in northern virginia. very democrat. but he has also been able to compete in some of the southern parts of the state...
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they say tim kaine who checks all of the boxes. he's a steady choice, he's someone who she sees who is going to be a governing partner. he's not only a senator, former governor, he has foreign policy experience, that has been increasingly important to secretary clinton as we have seen the threat of isis grow abroad also here at home. so those were some of the qualifications that she was looking for. we know that the two campaigned together in virginia last week and she was impressed by him. she was impressed by his campaigning style. they had an impromptu meeting after that event and another meeting on saturday with their families, lawrence. he was the only vp candidate with whom she had two meetings. i can tell you, i've been reporting on this for weeks now. and tim kaine has been at the top of her list or near the top of her list the entire time, for all of those reasons because she does see him as someone who will be a steady presence, a counter point to donald trump, as you point out. he also helps in the key swing state of vir
they say tim kaine who checks all of the boxes. he's a steady choice, he's someone who she sees who is going to be a governing partner. he's not only a senator, former governor, he has foreign policy experience, that has been increasingly important to secretary clinton as we have seen the threat of isis grow abroad also here at home. so those were some of the qualifications that she was looking for. we know that the two campaigned together in virginia last week and she was impressed by him. she...
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i'm looking forward to people seeing tim kaine, hearing from tim kaine. i think republicans and democrats alike. in fact, senator, a republican from arizona has already stated tonight after the news that tim kaine is a decent, honorable man and he couldn't see much wrong in the pick. in fact, he thought it was a good pick. so i think you're going to see divisive rhetoric from the trump campaign because that's what they do, that's what they specialize in. that's why this pick is so important, just like you're seeing from hillary, that their rhetoric hate and division over the last week and over the last several months. it's what they believe in their core, that's what they fought for their whole life and both of them will take this challenge, take this rhetoric and take it to donald trump himself. >> i'm being told that our reporting is at "the money." and -- >> and there's never been any accusations against tim kaine doing anything dishonorable. everything they're attacking was something that was completely legal and those laws will maybe change in the fu
i'm looking forward to people seeing tim kaine, hearing from tim kaine. i think republicans and democrats alike. in fact, senator, a republican from arizona has already stated tonight after the news that tim kaine is a decent, honorable man and he couldn't see much wrong in the pick. in fact, he thought it was a good pick. so i think you're going to see divisive rhetoric from the trump campaign because that's what they do, that's what they specialize in. that's why this pick is so important,...
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i want to talk about tim kaine.. so alan, i'll start with you. i want to talk about tim kaine. who will tim kaine be bringing to the voting booth and who will he turn off? >> he will certainly bring virginia possibly which is an important state where the election resides. but i know progressives and i consider myself one, some of them are upset about this, but i am not much for political purity tests. you compare him to the vice presidential candidate on the other side who is anti-lgbt, anti-abortion and donald trump will let his vice president run policy. on the democratic side, hillary clinton is still the head will of the ticket, she's the one who will be calling the shots up like what might happen on the other side. >> so alan, i gave you a chance to give me some positives about tim kaine and you really didn't did it. >> what did you mean? >> you talked more about mike pence and why he's not the -- >> he is a progressive. does he line up every single no. he's been a governor, a senator, he speaks spanish, you know down his resume and it may be a safe choice, but a very soli
i want to talk about tim kaine.. so alan, i'll start with you. i want to talk about tim kaine. who will tim kaine be bringing to the voting booth and who will he turn off? >> he will certainly bring virginia possibly which is an important state where the election resides. but i know progressives and i consider myself one, some of them are upset about this, but i am not much for political purity tests. you compare him to the vice presidential candidate on the other side who is anti-lgbt,...
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tim kaine is not a sanders democrat. >> some question with tim kaine is the right match for hillary clinton who was pulled to the last by senator bernie sanders and his followers. tim kaine is pro life and supports pablo sandoval -- partial birth abortion plan. >> i take a common catholic position, the right rule for government is to let william make their own decisions. >> said assault weapons ban is not an of fox25ive way to limit gun crime. i have voted for it. there is a bet way to go at the problem and that is limitation on the size of magazines and ammunition clips. >> tim kaine supported offshore drilling and assigned a repeal for taxes and the pro trade position is getting back lash from the left "with the vote for fast track authority for job killing trans pacific partnership and the newly uncovered public for bank deregulation make tim kaine our vice presidential candidate could be potentially disasterous to defeat donald trump in the fall." tim kaine said there is no comparison. >> i will campaign. the differences for trump are clear especially around issues of do we pull togethe
tim kaine is not a sanders democrat. >> some question with tim kaine is the right match for hillary clinton who was pulled to the last by senator bernie sanders and his followers. tim kaine is pro life and supports pablo sandoval -- partial birth abortion plan. >> i take a common catholic position, the right rule for government is to let william make their own decisions. >> said assault weapons ban is not an of fox25ive way to limit gun crime. i have voted for it. there is a...
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but who is tim kaine? hillary clinton presented him as he was a former missionary in honduras who speaks fluent spanish. they chose to roll him out here in miami at florida international university which has 52,000 students, two-thirds of which are latino. florida is absolutely crucial to the clinton campaign and, of course, donald trump cannot win the presidency unless he wins florida, where there is a growing and very strong latino community. tim kaine spoke spanish. he spoke about his background as a civil rights leader in virginia where his father-in-law was the first republican governor of virginia. he integrated the schools there. tim kaine and his wife have sent their children to virginia public schools. tim kaine. you can't really find any republican who criticized cain. he has been a very -- he's been in the senate, on the armed services committee. he also talked, leyland, about how his son is a marine. back to you. >> you know, jen, as you think about this decision to pick tim kaine, you have the
but who is tim kaine? hillary clinton presented him as he was a former missionary in honduras who speaks fluent spanish. they chose to roll him out here in miami at florida international university which has 52,000 students, two-thirds of which are latino. florida is absolutely crucial to the clinton campaign and, of course, donald trump cannot win the presidency unless he wins florida, where there is a growing and very strong latino community. tim kaine spoke spanish. he spoke about his...
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. >> hillary clinton and tim kaine! ♪ ♪ ain't no mountain high enough ♪ ♪ ain't no valley low enough ♪ ain't no river wide enough to keep me from getting to you baby ♪ ♪ remember the day i set you free ♪ ♪ i told you could always count on me darling ♪ ♪ from that day on, i made a vow, i'll be there when you want me some way, somehow ♪ ♪ baby, there ain't no mountain high enough ♪ ♪ ain't no valley low enough ♪ ain't no river wide enough to keep me from...
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>> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine is everything
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it's the new lifestyle tim kaine will have to get used to now. he was approachable as we went and saw him in sterling, virginia, on thursday. no secret service, obviously. that's going to change with his announcement that he's hillary clinton's pick for vp. we do expect him to be here in miami for that rally this morning. supposed to be kicking off around noon, actually. that's when the newly chosen running mate will be with hillary clinton. we've asked senator kaine several times leading up to this what he makes of the speculation. what were at the time rumors. he down played it even as late as thursday when i was with him in sterling. he said, you know, he'd be honored, but this is not something he's thinking about. of course, we learned late last night, around 8:00, he was, in fact, the choice. here's what he had to say though about why he thought he was ton short list. >> i am not under any illusion one of the main reasons i'm being considered is because of virginia. it's not necessarily just because of me. it's because virginia is really imp
it's the new lifestyle tim kaine will have to get used to now. he was approachable as we went and saw him in sterling, virginia, on thursday. no secret service, obviously. that's going to change with his announcement that he's hillary clinton's pick for vp. we do expect him to be here in miami for that rally this morning. supposed to be kicking off around noon, actually. that's when the newly chosen running mate will be with hillary clinton. we've asked senator kaine several times leading up to...
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they call tim kaine and talk. tim kaine's staff figures out how to get him out of the fund-raiser. he tells his wife he's the vp selection. there's a little hick up. because it turns out the crew for the airplane needs to sleep. many of us have encountered this in our day-to-day lives. we get delayed because the crew needs eventually they're able to take off. tim kaine had been planning to come to richmond last night. he decided to come here to miami. he and his aids popped champagne on the flight back to celebrate. throughout that, he was working on his speech. while he didn't rehearse it before he stood on stage to deliver it today, he did go through it and make some changes. and his aids say he doesn't normally use a tell prompter but he did. you could tell it was a speech he was giving -- it was full of personal details. he talked about his son who is shortly going to deploy with the marine corps.. he talked about having to react as the leader in the state of virginia after the terrible shootings at virginia tech. that, also, of course, working to focus on his progressive crede
they call tim kaine and talk. tim kaine's staff figures out how to get him out of the fund-raiser. he tells his wife he's the vp selection. there's a little hick up. because it turns out the crew for the airplane needs to sleep. many of us have encountered this in our day-to-day lives. we get delayed because the crew needs eventually they're able to take off. tim kaine had been planning to come to richmond last night. he decided to come here to miami. he and his aids popped champagne on the...
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tim kaine, tax returns. his proposed restriction ossen muslim immigration and why he alone can fix the count rice problems. but i began by asking him how it feels to be republican nominee for president of the united states. >> well it really feels great. and we really have a very unified party other than a very small group of people that frankly lost. and we have a very unified party. and you saw that the other night with the love in the room and the enthusiasm. there are people that say they have never seen anything like what was going on in that room, especially thursday night. >> you bring up thursday night. i got ask about your entrance. that monday night entrance was something else. i know you got a lot of feedback. >> got a little lucky and a couple of people had the idea and i went along with the idea and everybody just worked right. and it was so good they wanted to do it on thursday night. and i said never in a million years because you will never get it that way again. vince a good friend of mine.
tim kaine, tax returns. his proposed restriction ossen muslim immigration and why he alone can fix the count rice problems. but i began by asking him how it feels to be republican nominee for president of the united states. >> well it really feels great. and we really have a very unified party other than a very small group of people that frankly lost. and we have a very unified party. and you saw that the other night with the love in the room and the enthusiasm. there are people that say...
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he talked about tim kaine. tim kaine is hillary's vp pick. ultimate insiders, don't let obama have a third term. contribute. he's also talked about tim kaine giving him the nickname corrupt. he says crooked hillary clinton and corrupt tim kaine. this is how it's going to work for donald trump. he's not campaigning for the weekend. he doesn't come back until monday where he's campaigning in north carolina. he seems to be excited about this. he was up before 7:00 with four tweets specifically on this issue. frances. >> jacob, i was wondering how long it would take to come up with a nickname for tim kaine. doesn't take long. in true trump fashion. thank you so much, jacob rascone in philadelphia. want to bring in gabby, political reporter for washington examiner and associate editor for the hill. thank you both for being with me, as you both were in cleveland covering republican convention. gabby, as we get started, reaction to this new poll reuters taken over the course of the convention in cleveland. it shows this hillary clinton at 41% and do
he talked about tim kaine. tim kaine is hillary's vp pick. ultimate insiders, don't let obama have a third term. contribute. he's also talked about tim kaine giving him the nickname corrupt. he says crooked hillary clinton and corrupt tim kaine. this is how it's going to work for donald trump. he's not campaigning for the weekend. he doesn't come back until monday where he's campaigning in north carolina. he seems to be excited about this. he was up before 7:00 with four tweets specifically on...
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and they're also trying to paint tim kaine -- i keep trying to say t pain -- sorry, tim kaine as somebody who is decisive for the party. we remember the battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders was anything but pretty at times. extraordinarily contentious. and the fight really centered on hillary clinton's ability to be a progressive changer. somebody who would further that message in congress. that's what bernie sanders was trying to do. and there was a bit of a war between the two of them on that subject. and so when it came to hillary clinton looking for her vice presidential pick, a lot of progressives on the left including bernie sanders supporters were hoping she would go with somebody equally as progressive as better trnie, so like elizabeth warren. that did not happen. she went with somebody more establishment. so the trump team and the rnc are trying to say that hillary clinton basically chickened out in a way, she didn't uphold the values of the progressives and is that she will be angering them. and th that they won't support her after the convention. this is obviously
and they're also trying to paint tim kaine -- i keep trying to say t pain -- sorry, tim kaine as somebody who is decisive for the party. we remember the battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders was anything but pretty at times. extraordinarily contentious. and the fight really centered on hillary clinton's ability to be a progressive changer. somebody who would further that message in congress. that's what bernie sanders was trying to do. and there was a bit of a war between the two of...
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tim kaine is definitely a liberal. and, you know, even though he says he's personally against abortion he's still always governs with a pro-abortion vote. i don't know what that's supposed to mean. i'm personally against this but i'm going to go ahead and do it anyway. let me just say this about tim kaine on a personal level. he's an honorable guy. by that i mean that when i've been around him his faith is real and i remember after katrina tim was part of a group that went down and he was governor of virginia at the time. and he went down there and painted houses with a group from habitat for humanity. it wasn't just a photo-op. he really got on the ladders and he worked all day. and that's when i realized, this is a guy who is genuine. there's an authenticity about him. that's good because there's not much authenticity about hillary. so in many ways he is the polar opposite of hillary. he does actually believe what he says. and, you know, he's not somebody who puts away his faith when it's inconvenient for him. >> you
tim kaine is definitely a liberal. and, you know, even though he says he's personally against abortion he's still always governs with a pro-abortion vote. i don't know what that's supposed to mean. i'm personally against this but i'm going to go ahead and do it anyway. let me just say this about tim kaine on a personal level. he's an honorable guy. by that i mean that when i've been around him his faith is real and i remember after katrina tim was part of a group that went down and he was...
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tim kaine doesn't do that for her. the way she needed to satisfy with her vice president the way trump had to reassure conservatives as she did with mike pence, she needed to let them know. she has not only failure in egypt, syria, but lying repeatedly and now to democratic link. i'm a buckeye. i now want ohio olympics i was so happy at the end of the week in cleveland. i don't think democrats are going to leave philadelphia happy. >> i just wonder if you're obviously you're putting a positive spin on this but don't you think that what ted cruz pointed to, what frankly the first two appearances between donald trump and mike pence pointed to was an essential disorganization within a campaign, an inability to get their act together by a guy who is one of his central selling points is he is organized, he does have his act together. do you really think, i'm not talking about the republican voter in that audience who cheered him on and everybody thought ivanka did an amazing job, but for the swing voter out there, they watc
tim kaine doesn't do that for her. the way she needed to satisfy with her vice president the way trump had to reassure conservatives as she did with mike pence, she needed to let them know. she has not only failure in egypt, syria, but lying repeatedly and now to democratic link. i'm a buckeye. i now want ohio olympics i was so happy at the end of the week in cleveland. i don't think democrats are going to leave philadelphia happy. >> i just wonder if you're obviously you're putting a...
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. >> on hillary clinton's choice of tim kaine. >> tim kaine was a slap in the face to bernie sanders. >> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. >> but some bernie sanders supporters are criticizing the pick as a sellout to moderates. i'll talk to sanders and get his reaction on that. joining me for insight and analysis are msnbc's rachel maddow. former chairman of the rnc michael steele. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, and host of "hardball" and philadelphia hometown boy chris matthews. trump, sanders, reaction to the new democratic ticket. welcome to sunday and a special edition of "meet the press" at the democratic national convention. >> from philadelphia, this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning, we are at the wells fargo center here in south philadelphia, home of the 76ers and the flyers, democrats have begun to arrive with a pretty mad heat wave and beginning tomorrow, they will gather to officially nominate hillary clin
. >> on hillary clinton's choice of tim kaine. >> tim kaine was a slap in the face to bernie sanders. >> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. >> but some bernie sanders supporters are criticizing the pick as a sellout to moderates. i'll talk to sanders and get his reaction on that. joining me for insight and analysis are msnbc's rachel maddow. former chairman of the rnc michael...
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you talked about tim kaine. if nothing else changed on this map and hillary clinton won virginia and florida, game over. so it's much easier. it's not easy for anybody. but she has the easier path. she's got a lead in the electoral college right now, there are other options, pennsylvania's usually a blue state. iowa's a swing state. >> what's trump's best path? >> let's go back to this map. let me switch this back and come back to our battle ground map. trump's best bet is to win florida. the democrats are going to go heavy there. if democrats can fake thattake from donald trump, his path gets complicated. obama won it in wait. trump can do that. he has to win ohio and prove kasich wrong. trump thinks it's pennsylvania. you have jeffrey lord with you, george w. bush tried twice for this one. if trump can make that one red, get that plus florida, north carolina and ohio, then donald trump's the next president. that is not an easy lift. if he can't get florida. if the democrats can hold florida, then trump's math
you talked about tim kaine. if nothing else changed on this map and hillary clinton won virginia and florida, game over. so it's much easier. it's not easy for anybody. but she has the easier path. she's got a lead in the electoral college right now, there are other options, pennsylvania's usually a blue state. iowa's a swing state. >> what's trump's best path? >> let's go back to this map. let me switch this back and come back to our battle ground map. trump's best bet is to win...
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. >>> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. >> but some bernie sanders supporters are criticizing the kaine pick as a sellout to moderates. i'll talk to sanders and get his reaction to that and to the dnc wikileaks e-mail release. joining me msnbc rachel maddow, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele, nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, and host of "hardball" and philadelphia hometown boy, chris matthews. trump, sanders and reaction to the new democratic ticket. welcome to sunday, and a special edition of "meet the press" at the democratic national convention. >> announcer: from philadelphia, this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. we are at the wells-fargo center here in south philadelphia, home of the nba 76ers and nhl's broad street bullies, the flyers. democrats have begun to arrive with a pretty mad heat wave and beginning tomorrow, they will gather to officially nominate hillary clinton as their presidential candida
. >>> plus, hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road in florida. >> tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. >> but some bernie sanders supporters are criticizing the kaine pick as a sellout to moderates. i'll talk to sanders and get his reaction to that and to the dnc wikileaks e-mail release. joining me msnbc rachel maddow, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele, nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, and host of...
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his speech -- >> he's pro tim kaine. obviously bakari is very loyal but he said that beforehand so i don't su-- yet again we have an all white ticket. >> bakari said after watching and hearing and reading about tim kaine he couldn't be more excited. look, tim kaine is a progressive fighter. this is someone who was a missionary in central america, helped create jobs there, when he came back and after finishing law school he was a civil rights attorney, he took on nationwide one of the biggest insurance companies in the country to fight against discrimination. he has been lauded across the board by organized labor, by the sierra club, by the league of conservation voters, he had a 100% record from planned parenthood. this is someone that the progressive community can be proud of. >> on the subject of planned parenthood and abortion rights take a listen to tim kaine during a campaign, this is a video add ad from 2005. >> i support restrictions on abortion, parental consent for minors, a ban on partial birth abortion, no pub
his speech -- >> he's pro tim kaine. obviously bakari is very loyal but he said that beforehand so i don't su-- yet again we have an all white ticket. >> bakari said after watching and hearing and reading about tim kaine he couldn't be more excited. look, tim kaine is a progressive fighter. this is someone who was a missionary in central america, helped create jobs there, when he came back and after finishing law school he was a civil rights attorney, he took on nationwide one of...
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they're the ones saying that tim kaine is taking freebies? >> with all due respect, he's also spent millions and millions and millions of dollars of his own money. this is taking money within government just like hillary clinton would -- this is -- >> i know you're scared. >> can i finish? compromising her values, and she says she's a champion of women's rights and religious rights and lgbt rights, but she takes money from countries like saudi arabia, kuwait, amman and others. and they abuse women. they kill gays and lesbians, and they persecute christians and jews, and you can't build a temple or a church. that's hypocritical. >> i know you're scared, sean. >> scared of tim kaine? >> he's a great pick. you should be scared. he's going to be great. >> ari fleischer, you know what? i know got my brown belt. i'm working towards my black belt. there's very little i'm afraid of in life, and i can promise you tim kaine is not on this list. >> my advice to republicans would be if there's any framing here, that essential it's in inside the beltway t
they're the ones saying that tim kaine is taking freebies? >> with all due respect, he's also spent millions and millions and millions of dollars of his own money. this is taking money within government just like hillary clinton would -- this is -- >> i know you're scared. >> can i finish? compromising her values, and she says she's a champion of women's rights and religious rights and lgbt rights, but she takes money from countries like saudi arabia, kuwait, amman and others....
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time for tim kaine. a lot more of them sharing the stage together. we have not had that yet with trump and pence so this will be a chance for them to go on the road. to bring some traditional cal pain skills to try to hit the battleground states which will be so pivotal and it will be a time when they will try to compete for attention with a democratic national convention that is more organized and planned than in cleveland. even though trump felt he had a big night. don't expect him to go quitely while hillary clinton gets her moment and already trump is going for tim kaine saying mike pence is a better choice when it comes to job creation and tax cutting. reverend al? >> all right. well didn't think he would go quitely. thank you so much. joining me now is the democrat from california and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. a former dnc chairman. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> congresswoman, what's your reaction to tim kaine? is he progressive enough for you? >> i'm excit
time for tim kaine. a lot more of them sharing the stage together. we have not had that yet with trump and pence so this will be a chance for them to go on the road. to bring some traditional cal pain skills to try to hit the battleground states which will be so pivotal and it will be a time when they will try to compete for attention with a democratic national convention that is more organized and planned than in cleveland. even though trump felt he had a big night. don't expect him to go...
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tim kaine is a fairly moderate candidate. shows you she believes progressives have nowhere to go but vote for her. she'll begin her convention and get a bump out of that. surprising how close donald trump is given lack of organizing, fundraising and the amount of fundraising clinton has. it seems clinton is traditionally focused on swing states and donald trump is trying to pick-off some states like pennsylvania that normally wouldn't go for republican. >> now that we're expecting to see the official ticket of clinto clinto clinto clinton/kaine later in miami. when you contrast that with pence pick, is that something republicans should be worried about? >> i think it was a solid pick on hillary clinton's part. i think it was a very solid pick. donald trump was wise to pick mike pence as a running mate to give conservatives a sense that he wants to work with conservatives. mike pence is a solid conservative. i think tim kaine is a good pick for hillary clinton. he'll help her a great deal on that ticket. >> all right, guys. th
tim kaine is a fairly moderate candidate. shows you she believes progressives have nowhere to go but vote for her. she'll begin her convention and get a bump out of that. surprising how close donald trump is given lack of organizing, fundraising and the amount of fundraising clinton has. it seems clinton is traditionally focused on swing states and donald trump is trying to pick-off some states like pennsylvania that normally wouldn't go for republican. >> now that we're expecting to see...
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and hillary clinton makes this choice of tim kaine. i can't imagine the 50,000 bernie supporters are going to be too happy. >> i want hillary to win. i know you find that wrong. tim kaine is pro free trade, pro listening regulars layings on banks, took $160,000 in gifts. she needs the bernie voters. she needs millennials. this doesn't help. she made the wrong choice. >> the only important thing about it is virginia is a swing state. >> i agree. >> other than that, i don't think anybody cares. i think the problem is that she needed to move left and she moved right. >> i agree. >> and she's assuming people are coming. >>. i think that tim kaine is like the democratic mike pence. he's solid. >> mike pence -- >> i met him following the massacre at virginia tech. he was a healer. and excuse me, he's -- >> and he said -- >> he's a vice president. >> the only thing -- >> may i make my center, please? tim kaine speaks spanish better than ted cruz speaks spanish. he wasn't my first choice. but tim kaine will be fine and he has the ability. he i
and hillary clinton makes this choice of tim kaine. i can't imagine the 50,000 bernie supporters are going to be too happy. >> i want hillary to win. i know you find that wrong. tim kaine is pro free trade, pro listening regulars layings on banks, took $160,000 in gifts. she needs the bernie voters. she needs millennials. this doesn't help. she made the wrong choice. >> the only important thing about it is virginia is a swing state. >> i agree. >> other than that, i...
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tim kaine could qualify as president. i think if the progressive cause think he's going to kprpt -- even if they're harmful, whi whichit's think if hillary clinton is going to win this campaign, she is the horn is go. . is a little bit more effective and she's going to have to have an appeal that's not a lawyerly appeal to the voters but an emotional, fiery alternative to this demagogue we saw lecture the in the nation last night. >> you will mott have a more liberal important is especially a store involving husband wife. >> i happen to know it painly because a prp ann holton how is now dim's wang would pcht and hooves a republican governor. when people talk about -- today about how the republican party used to be the party of lincoln. he exemplifies it. while he was governor, bussings ordered in richmond, the capital often fedcy. he took he is child, an unmim stoud ent andin co. in inom. basically tlefs brierch out of the republican heart anding a niesed fmt n spm (and for this he had to borrow stephen colbert. >> that w
tim kaine could qualify as president. i think if the progressive cause think he's going to kprpt -- even if they're harmful, whi whichit's think if hillary clinton is going to win this campaign, she is the horn is go. . is a little bit more effective and she's going to have to have an appeal that's not a lawyerly appeal to the voters but an emotional, fiery alternative to this demagogue we saw lecture the in the nation last night. >> you will mott have a more liberal important is...